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I just spoke with a hemi tuner elcobra44 who suggested that I go with shorty headers when installing a cam so I don't lose low-end torgue.
Can anyone provide feedback on the above???? I was planning on going with a Spartan Cam btw. http://www.inertiamotorsports.com/camshafts.html He's a traveling installer for Inertia Motorsports that specializes in Hemi's and just happens to have a shop within 5 miles of my house in IL. Just incredible luck. This message has been edited. Last edited by: haze, 2004 Hemi QC 4X4, SuperChips, AFE CAI, Magnaflow Duals, Motive 4.56x2, Purple Cranium Diff Cover, Hawk LTS, PowerSlots, Taylor Shorties, NGK 5306, Jet Stream Scoop, Toyo Proxies S/T, Royal Purple, Putco Stuff, Pendaflex liner, Fiberglass tonneau, and lots-o-billet. |
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strange i always thought it was the other way around, but he should know what he is talking about
 Black 2004 Qc 4X4, Superchips,comp 260 cam,home ported & milled heads,6.1 spring and pushrods, PSC1, Taylor Thundevolt 50, Edelbrock TES headers, true duals with Magnaflow, K&N C.A.I., Innovate LC1, MarkVIII E Fan, 180* t stat,Hellwig RSB, 6 X HID,sport running boards and bed accents,lund rool pan, Kenwood KNX7100 nav., R camera, 80G hard drive, 9" flip down monitor, Phoenix gold Tantrum 600.4 for Diamond Audio 4.5" dash and R.F. 5" R doors, Orion Extreme 500.4 for HCCA 6S comps front door, Precision Power DCX 1500.1 for 2 X 10" RE Audio SE, Oxygen Audio 20 Farad cap, Rammat sound deadner, tons of wires |
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"Johnny"  |
You will gain alot more torque with LT's than you will with shorties, especially going with a cam. I suggest you do alot of research before going with an inertia cam
 2004 RAM 1500 SLT R/C S/B Pacesetter LT's w/ Hi-flow cats and 3" Y, Dynomax Ultraflow, aFe highbreather, AirAid M.I.T. and Taylor Thundervolt 8.2 long wires SCT TUNED by Hemifever    |
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make sure you get what your looking for and not one of his 218 cams that he is trying to get rid of.
2004 ram rc/sb 5.7 4x4 cam headers intake exhaust |
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I sent a PM to 392Stu, but haven't heard back yet.
As far as research goes, that's what I hope to get through this thread. I rely member's experience more than vendor claims or statements. Hey sppb - I see you use Superchips with the comp 260... So no issues? No need for special tuning? Idle, WOT and highway okay? How bout fuel economy? Lot's of questions, I know. Thanks. Hemi1569 - Thanks for the heads up. I do know the have a couple 113LSA cams, I wonder if those are the 218's you're referring to. 2004 Hemi QC 4X4, SuperChips, AFE CAI, Magnaflow Duals, Motive 4.56x2, Purple Cranium Diff Cover, Hawk LTS, PowerSlots, Taylor Shorties, NGK 5306, Jet Stream Scoop, Toyo Proxies S/T, Royal Purple, Putco Stuff, Pendaflex liner, Fiberglass tonneau, and lots-o-billet. |
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never had a problem with the 260 with just Superchips, i believe i had a rich code once but it was due to a half bad MAP sensor, but with the PSC1 works even better.
The gas mileage i can't complain, i got about 100 hp over stock and still have the same gas mileage so if you compare mpg/hp yes it's better Black 2004 Qc 4X4, Superchips,comp 260 cam,home ported & milled heads,6.1 spring and pushrods, PSC1, Taylor Thundevolt 50, Edelbrock TES headers, true duals with Magnaflow, K&N C.A.I., Innovate LC1, MarkVIII E Fan, 180* t stat,Hellwig RSB, 6 X HID,sport running boards and bed accents,lund rool pan, Kenwood KNX7100 nav., R camera, 80G hard drive, 9" flip down monitor, Phoenix gold Tantrum 600.4 for Diamond Audio 4.5" dash and R.F. 5" R doors, Orion Extreme 500.4 for HCCA 6S comps front door, Precision Power DCX 1500.1 for 2 X 10" RE Audio SE, Oxygen Audio 20 Farad cap, Rammat sound deadner, tons of wires |
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"Michael" Truck of the Month July 2006  |
go with longtubes for sure.
____________________________________________________ MY RIDE 2004 1500 Hemi RCSB\Inertia Motorsports Spartan Cam\Inertia Motorsports CNC Ported 5.7 Heads\AEM Wideband A/F Gauge\SCT TUNED\Flex-A-Lite Electric Fan\180 Thermostat\Shorty Taylor Wires\NGK 5306 Plugs\aFe Cold Air Intake System\Long Tube Pacesetter Headers\Cat Delete\Dual DMH Electric Cutouts\Magnaflow X Pipe\True Duals with 2 AeroTurbine 3030's dumped\Motive 4.56 Gears with LSD\SharaDon Performance Stage II Transmission with Stage III Valve Body\Edge 3000 Billet Torque Converter\Cal Tracs\McGaughy's 2/4 Drop Click here for pics and couple vid's of my truck! |
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Can I ask why? The Spartan cam on a 113LSA is what I want to put in my truck hopefully fairly soon. Is there a problem with them on the HEMI? I have talked to a few people who have them in their trucks and even rode in one that had one installed to get a feel for it and I really liked it. ____________________________________________________ 05' Dodge Ram 1500 RCSB 5.7L HEMI \ AFE Hemi High Breather CAI \ Fastman Throttle Body \ Modified MIT Tube \ Pacesetter LT's \ 3" ORY \ Borla XR-1 \ 4.56 Gears \ Trans Cooler \ APS TQ Converter \ AeroForce Interceptor \ AeroForce Wideband \ DSP \ Bilstein HD Shocks \ Hellwig Rear Anti-Sway Bar \ Yokohama Parada Spec-X 275/55/r20 \ Viper Alarm \ SRT-10 A-Pillar \ ARE Tonneau Cover \ Debadged  |
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"Michael" Truck of the Month July 2006 |
I'm not gonna say that they are bad cams but the Spartan has not been proven in a RC Hemi. We've seen what the Spartan can do in a QC, see Chefred and 05whitehemi's 13.0x and 13.1x runs. I do have the Spartan but do not get to race as much as others do, so I have not been able to prove that the Spartan is a contender for a 12 sec pass (pretty much what any hardcore Hemi guy wants to get out of his truck N/A). I do know that the 268 and 210x are proven cams to help get that desired 12 sec pass.
____________________________________________________ MY RIDE 2004 1500 Hemi RCSB\Inertia Motorsports Spartan Cam\Inertia Motorsports CNC Ported 5.7 Heads\AEM Wideband A/F Gauge\SCT TUNED\Flex-A-Lite Electric Fan\180 Thermostat\Shorty Taylor Wires\NGK 5306 Plugs\aFe Cold Air Intake System\Long Tube Pacesetter Headers\Cat Delete\Dual DMH Electric Cutouts\Magnaflow X Pipe\True Duals with 2 AeroTurbine 3030's dumped\Motive 4.56 Gears with LSD\SharaDon Performance Stage II Transmission with Stage III Valve Body\Edge 3000 Billet Torque Converter\Cal Tracs\McGaughy's 2/4 Drop Click here for pics and couple vid's of my truck! |
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Personally I would be happy to get mine into the high 13's low 14's for now. And as long as there is nothing "wrong" with it that is the rout I am going.
This message has been edited. Last edited by: Truckin151, ____________________________________________________ 05' Dodge Ram 1500 RCSB 5.7L HEMI \ AFE Hemi High Breather CAI \ Fastman Throttle Body \ Modified MIT Tube \ Pacesetter LT's \ 3" ORY \ Borla XR-1 \ 4.56 Gears \ Trans Cooler \ APS TQ Converter \ AeroForce Interceptor \ AeroForce Wideband \ DSP \ Bilstein HD Shocks \ Hellwig Rear Anti-Sway Bar \ Yokohama Parada Spec-X 275/55/r20 \ Viper Alarm \ SRT-10 A-Pillar \ ARE Tonneau Cover \ Debadged |
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"Johnny" |
Personally and from what I have heard there are alot better cams out there for the money. I myself have not tried any so I won't suggest one but I have heard alot of positive post on the KRC 210X, I know it moved a QC really good down the track so in a RC it should produce real good numbers. 2004 RAM 1500 SLT R/C S/B Pacesetter LT's w/ Hi-flow cats and 3" Y, Dynomax Ultraflow, aFe highbreather, AirAid M.I.T. and Taylor Thundervolt 8.2 long wires SCT TUNED by Hemifever |
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so if a KRC 210x moved a QC down the track really good and the spartan did the same, why cant the spartan move the RC the same as a 210x
04 dodge ram rc/sb hemi 03 dodge ram qc/dually cummins  |
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"Johnny" |
Because the ones the Spartan moved down the track have significant weight reduction  2004 RAM 1500 SLT R/C S/B Pacesetter LT's w/ Hi-flow cats and 3" Y, Dynomax Ultraflow, aFe highbreather, AirAid M.I.T. and Taylor Thundervolt 8.2 long wires SCT TUNED by Hemifever |
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which made them weigh about as much as a RC?
04 dodge ram rc/sb hemi 03 dodge ram qc/dually cummins |
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"Johnny" |
My point there smart guy the QC with the 210X wasnt
2004 RAM 1500 SLT R/C S/B Pacesetter LT's w/ Hi-flow cats and 3" Y, Dynomax Ultraflow, aFe highbreather, AirAid M.I.T. and Taylor Thundervolt 8.2 long wires SCT TUNED by Hemifever |
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