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I am wanting to switch to Amsoil. I have 10,050 on my 2007 5.7 hemi with MDS and have two oil changes with mopar conv. to break in and then one change with castrol semi syn now and am wanting to switch to amsoil. I live in the northwest with mild temp of avg 55 degree year round and use as a weekend truck with occassional heavy towing of toyhauler. Can i just switch to xl 5w-20 with once a year changing or would another be better.
recommendations please from those with experience would be awesome. Rich's: 2007 Black Pearl Quad 1500 Sport Hemi 4x4. magnaflow exhaust, edge evolution, 3rd strike intake, |
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Best bet is go to with the 0w20. it's only a a couple of dollars more and you get better protection. Take a look at this link:
0w-20 Amsoil Any questions just call or email. Tony |
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thank you sir for the link, i will go with that for the added insurance.
Rich's: 2007 Black Pearl Quad 1500 Sport Hemi 4x4. magnaflow exhaust, edge evolution, 3rd strike intake, |
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Filter and Lubrication Consultant  |
Welcome aboard BlackHemi4cruising!
Hemi5 can take care of your AMSOIL needs. Be sure to ask him about the wholesale programs we have. ____________________________________________________ 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 QC SB 5.7L Hemi Express Limited Edition Performance Mods: RamHammer w/AMSOIL EAAU6080 Air Filter and Pre-Filter, 295/50 General Grabber UHP Tires, AMSOIL'd EVERYTHING!, Jet Stream, IAT mod, Superchip, FlowMaster SUV SI/SO, Thundervolt Full Length Wires, NGK Iridiums, AMSOIL By-Pass Kit, Power Slot Rotors w/EBC Green Pads, TCM wire pulled, Bilstein Shocks, APS Torque Converter 2500 Stall, Transgo Shift Kit, 190 T-Stat, Helwig Rear Anti Swaybar, Moe's Traction Bars w/Shims, Ground Force 2" Drop Shackles, 6.1 Cam w/Manley Springs, 6.1 Rods & Titanium Retainers, Viper Fan w/FK60 controller, Pacesetter Long Tubes & Y Pipe, Flowtech Exhaust Cutout, ATI 5% UD Harmonic Balancer, 4.10 Sierra Gears, M&H Slicks for the track on 17 alloys. Best 60ft 1.973 14.172@93.99MPH 345HP/346Torque Future Mods: Custom Grind Cam and Heads AMSOIL Dealer - www.PureSyn.net 877-778-7379, contact me for more info on wholesale or request a free catalog. Use Referral #470077          |
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"Rob" VP Alaska Chapter  |
  2008 Dodge Durango 4x4 SLT HEMI and 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 SLT Quad Cab HEMI www.lubedealer.com/99705/          April 25, 2007!! |
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If you want to run Amsoil( nothing wrong with that - very good oil )the XL 5W-20, changed by the max mileage limit allowed per your owner's manual( 6 months/6000 ), is your best bet for a new vehicle like this still under factory warranty.
People will debate endlessly over whether or not you can or can't "legally" exceed/alter the auto mfg's oil change requirements but the bottom line is why risk any hassle. As a former service writer I can tell you I personally have requested customers provide proof of proper OCI's with the proper fluids( ie; weight and required ratings and spec's )when major engine issues developed. The dealer you use may not care but most do. If the dealer doesn't care keep in mind the auto mfg usually gets involved in major engine issues as well and THEY almost always care! Go a year and 10K, 15K, 20K+ miles between OC's and have some type of engine issue( internal )and you are going to have to show you complied with warranty requirements I can just about guarantee you. Even if you went to court and won this( highly unlikely - again personal work experience ), or Amsoil stepped up to cover it under their warranty(  ), you still will have a hassle getting it taken care of.Is it worth it to avoid doing 2 OC's a year vs one? This is not an Amsoil bash either as it applies to ANY oil you wish to use. Do not alter or exceed the auto mfg's warranty requirements for your vehicle's OC's. Magnuson-Moss act does not allow for that. The auto mfg actually has some rights as far as requirements we must follow to preserve that warranty they provide even if many aftermarket companies will try and tell us otherwise. You really don't want to mess with your Lifetime Powertrain Warranty. Amsoil XL is rated( by Amsoil )for 7500 miles last I knew so it is not their oil to use for a year service anyway( for that you want the regular or SSO ). However, the XL oil is API certified and carries the Starburst and will meet or exceed Chrysler MS6395 so it satisfies warranty. Just use the XL 5W-20 and change it by 6/6000 and you are good. Amsoil's other oils are not API certified( at all )so they do not meet warranty requirements. All of their oils are very good but only the XL line satisfies warranty requirements so for your vehicle it is really the only oil from them you should use IF you care about that. If not then use any of them and you are good. Again, this is not an Amsoil bash! ____________________________________________________ 2008 Ram 1500 5.7L HEMI 4WD Quad Cab SLT 20's & 3.92's MOPAR Step Bars/BedRug/Mud Flaps * Weathertech Floor Liners * Laramie Dash Bezel * Push Button Start * Undercover Hard Tonneau * Borla Dual Exhaust w/ Vibrant Dual Outlet SS Tips * Elite HEMI Hitch Plug * Firestone Destination LE's Royal Purple #1 |
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Really? Hey Art!! care to comment on that? ____________________________________________  tribuo nos pacis in terra "WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE" SMOKE DETECTORS SAVE LIVES. HAVE YOU CHECKED YOURS TODAY? AND DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH? ’03 4x4 LB QC CAI, SC, RP, (will we ever spell full words again?) Shorties, NGK 4036.      I was walking home one day and a guy hammering on a roof called me a paranoid little weirdo, In morse code. |
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Mark "Toy Tech" Truck of the Month February 2006  |
from amsoil website:
Warranties and the Magnuson-Moss Act If you are interested in using AMSOIL motor oil, but concerned that using a synthetic oil or extending your oil drain interval will void his warranty, you have no need for concern. Congress in 1975 enacted the federal Magnuson-Moss Act to regulate written consumer product warranties. An examination of the law reveals warranties remain intact when AMSOIL Synthetic Lubricants are used. The law was meant to give consumers detailed information about warranty coverage before they buy. Congress charged the Federal Trade Commission with creation of the specifics of the law. The FTC set down three rules under the Act: the Disclosure Rule, the Pre-Sale Availability Rule and the Dispute Resolution Rule. Those rules require warrantors to title their written warranty as either full or limited, provide a single, clear and easy-to-read document that spells out certain information about coverage and ensure that warranties are available where the products are sold so that consumers can read them before buying. In passing the Act, Congress meant to give consumers access to warranty information, let consumers comparison shop for warranties, encourage warranty competition and promote timely and complete performance of warranty obligations. While the Magnuson-Moss Act does not require manufacturers to provide a written warranty, it provides specific rules when one is provided. Among those provisions, FTC regulations state: (c) No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade, or corporate name; except that the prohibition of this subsection may be waived by the Commission if (1) the warrantor satisfies the Commission that the warranted product will function properly only if the article or service so identified is used in connection with the warranted product, and (2) the Commission finds that such a waiver is in the public interest. (15 U.S.C.2302(C)) That means your warranty stands when you use AMSOIL Synthetic Lubricants. Vehicle manufacturers recommend lubricants according to their viscosity grade and service classification. Any oil, whether its conventional petroleum motor oil or synthetic, meeting the correct viscosity grade, 5W-30 for example, and the current API and ILSAC North American service classifications may be used without affecting warranty coverage. AMSOIL motor oils are recommended for use in applications requiring these specifications. Furthermore, the practice of extending oil drain intervals does not void warranties. Original equipment manufacturers pay or deny warranty claims based on the findings of failure analysis. To affect the vehicle warranty, the lubricant must be directly responsible for the failure. If the oil didn't cause the problem the warranty cannot be voided, regardless of brand or length of time in use. Synthetic motor oil was introduced to the automotive public in 1972 by AMSOIL, INC., with the world's first API rated synthetic motor oil specially formulated for long service and superior performance and protection to that of conventional oils. Nearly 30 years ago, AMSOIL synthetics represented a vision of the future and technology ahead of their time. Since then, every major engine oil manufacturer has introduced synthetic oils of their own. To be sure, many original equipment manufacturers would like you to believe you can only use their products. However, it's a violation of the consumer protections set forth in the Magnuson-Moss Act, unless they're willing to provide you those products free of charge. AMSOIL offers a warranty that covers the cost of repair or replacement of a proven mechanically sound engine damaged as a result of using AMSOIL synthetic motor oil. However, it has never happened. Thirty years of experience proves AMSOIL can be installed in any vehicle with complete confidence. AMSOIL further backs its products with action when a Dealer or customer reports being told their warranty is voided if they use synthetics. If you have heard from any member of a business that the use of AMSOIL Motor Oil or the practice of extending drain intervals will void warranties, send AMSOIL all the details including the name of the business, business owner or manager and the individual making the claims, in a signed and dated letter. Send the letter to the Technical Services Department at corporate headquarters and an AMSOIL representative will send them a letter explaining the facts. Access to the complete Magnuson-Moss Act is available on the Internet by key words Magnuson-Moss Act or Federal Trade Commission. My website: www.lubedealer.com/oil4all ********AWARDS******** 6 Best of Show 13 First Place 3 Class Awards 1 Truck of the Month **********************    |
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Thanks for the replies, i could not find amsoil where I live and was opting to buy and have shipped but did not want to wait on my oil change, I went with Mobil 1 0w-20 synthetic. I do go no more than a year between changes and average 5,000 miles a year with the truck.
Rich's: 2007 Black Pearl Quad 1500 Sport Hemi 4x4. magnaflow exhaust, edge evolution, 3rd strike intake, |
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This is Amsoil's take on it and it is highly disputed by the auto mfg's and frankly most other oil companies do not recommend going aginst the mfg's requirements either( most all of them say to follow the mfg's requirements while under warranty and there is a reason for that! ). Not going to get into it yet again on here with the Amsoil crowd. It is a no win situation as to them that company is right on everything and no one else is ever right. Bottom line is Amsoil offers a line of oil that is warranty acceptable, and is a very good procduct, so use the XL line if that brand is what you want to use. Their no API certified oils are NOT warranty acceptable and they can twsit and manipulate the MMA all they want to try and say they are. Very good oil but not warranty acceptable. ____________________________________________________ 2008 Ram 1500 5.7L HEMI 4WD Quad Cab SLT 20's & 3.92's MOPAR Step Bars/BedRug/Mud Flaps * Weathertech Floor Liners * Laramie Dash Bezel * Push Button Start * Undercover Hard Tonneau * Borla Dual Exhaust w/ Vibrant Dual Outlet SS Tips * Elite HEMI Hitch Plug * Firestone Destination LE's Royal Purple #1 |
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"Phil" Treasurer Texas Chapter  |
finally someone that does not have their head in the Amsoil cloud... Thanks NHHEMI for voicing your opinion, even when it is not the popular thing to do... There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Amsoil... especially if using it on a truck that is "yours" IE: out of warranty.. or you plan to roll the dice with your dealership/service department in the event that something does happen while under warranty.. I personally do not want to jepordize my lifetime powertrain warranty... and will be sticking to the API rated oils, to avoid the drama later. My only question is... if it (Amsoil) was so superior of an oil (any of their lines), WHY ISNT ALL OF THEIR LINES API CERTIFIED???? Seems like a no brainer to me... and i would switch over tomorrow if it was.... as would i am sure, a lot of other. Including some OEM manufactures as factory fill.
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Filter and Lubrication Consultant |
As long as you follow AMSOIL's recommendation for your vehicle and AMSOIL's oil drain intervals there is not any problems with mfg's warranties! NHHEMI is spreading is opinion and not fact. ____________________________________________________ 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 QC SB 5.7L Hemi Express Limited Edition Performance Mods: RamHammer w/AMSOIL EAAU6080 Air Filter and Pre-Filter, 295/50 General Grabber UHP Tires, AMSOIL'd EVERYTHING!, Jet Stream, IAT mod, Superchip, FlowMaster SUV SI/SO, Thundervolt Full Length Wires, NGK Iridiums, AMSOIL By-Pass Kit, Power Slot Rotors w/EBC Green Pads, TCM wire pulled, Bilstein Shocks, APS Torque Converter 2500 Stall, Transgo Shift Kit, 190 T-Stat, Helwig Rear Anti Swaybar, Moe's Traction Bars w/Shims, Ground Force 2" Drop Shackles, 6.1 Cam w/Manley Springs, 6.1 Rods & Titanium Retainers, Viper Fan w/FK60 controller, Pacesetter Long Tubes & Y Pipe, Flowtech Exhaust Cutout, ATI 5% UD Harmonic Balancer, 4.10 Sierra Gears, M&H Slicks for the track on 17 alloys. Best 60ft 1.973 14.172@93.99MPH 345HP/346Torque Future Mods: Custom Grind Cam and Heads AMSOIL Dealer - www.PureSyn.net 877-778-7379, contact me for more info on wholesale or request a free catalog. Use Referral #470077 |
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Filter and Lubrication Consultant |
Once again you spread your opinion in place of fact and the law that protects consumers. AMSOIL has been around and a long time and they're not going any where either. Your quite a piece of work and everytime you post your B.S. I'll be there to correct it. ____________________________________________________ 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 QC SB 5.7L Hemi Express Limited Edition Performance Mods: RamHammer w/AMSOIL EAAU6080 Air Filter and Pre-Filter, 295/50 General Grabber UHP Tires, AMSOIL'd EVERYTHING!, Jet Stream, IAT mod, Superchip, FlowMaster SUV SI/SO, Thundervolt Full Length Wires, NGK Iridiums, AMSOIL By-Pass Kit, Power Slot Rotors w/EBC Green Pads, TCM wire pulled, Bilstein Shocks, APS Torque Converter 2500 Stall, Transgo Shift Kit, 190 T-Stat, Helwig Rear Anti Swaybar, Moe's Traction Bars w/Shims, Ground Force 2" Drop Shackles, 6.1 Cam w/Manley Springs, 6.1 Rods & Titanium Retainers, Viper Fan w/FK60 controller, Pacesetter Long Tubes & Y Pipe, Flowtech Exhaust Cutout, ATI 5% UD Harmonic Balancer, 4.10 Sierra Gears, M&H Slicks for the track on 17 alloys. Best 60ft 1.973 14.172@93.99MPH 345HP/346Torque Future Mods: Custom Grind Cam and Heads AMSOIL Dealer - www.PureSyn.net 877-778-7379, contact me for more info on wholesale or request a free catalog. Use Referral #470077 |
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Filter and Lubrication Consultant |
Simply put... API is a certification. There is criteria to meet for certification, obviously. The criteria has a window. If an oil falls short or over this window it will not be API certified. That in itself does not mean the oil is bad if it exceeds the criteria. AMSOIL's XL line is API. AMSOIL's premium 1 year oils exceed API certification and cannot be API certified. You do not have to have an API oil to maintain warranty. You only need to meet the requirements. These are the requirements, for example, that AMSOIL's 0W-30 meets. APPLICATIONS AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil is recommended for use in gasoline engines, diesel engines (API CF, ACEA B5) and other applications requiring SAE 0W-30, 5W-30 or 10W-30 with the following worldwide specifications: • API SM/CF, SL, SJ … • ILSAC GF-4, 3 … • ACEA A5/B5-04 • GM 4718M, 6094M • Ford WSS-M2C929-A • Daimler Chrysler MS-6395N • VW 503.00 • Honda/Acura HTO-06 ____________________________________________________ 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 QC SB 5.7L Hemi Express Limited Edition Performance Mods: RamHammer w/AMSOIL EAAU6080 Air Filter and Pre-Filter, 295/50 General Grabber UHP Tires, AMSOIL'd EVERYTHING!, Jet Stream, IAT mod, Superchip, FlowMaster SUV SI/SO, Thundervolt Full Length Wires, NGK Iridiums, AMSOIL By-Pass Kit, Power Slot Rotors w/EBC Green Pads, TCM wire pulled, Bilstein Shocks, APS Torque Converter 2500 Stall, Transgo Shift Kit, 190 T-Stat, Helwig Rear Anti Swaybar, Moe's Traction Bars w/Shims, Ground Force 2" Drop Shackles, 6.1 Cam w/Manley Springs, 6.1 Rods & Titanium Retainers, Viper Fan w/FK60 controller, Pacesetter Long Tubes & Y Pipe, Flowtech Exhaust Cutout, ATI 5% UD Harmonic Balancer, 4.10 Sierra Gears, M&H Slicks for the track on 17 alloys. Best 60ft 1.973 14.172@93.99MPH 345HP/346Torque Future Mods: Custom Grind Cam and Heads AMSOIL Dealer - www.PureSyn.net 877-778-7379, contact me for more info on wholesale or request a free catalog. Use Referral #470077 |
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Filter and Lubrication Consultant |
If you guys do a little research, you'll find that RP does not meet API on some products and are losing API on others. This in itself does not mean RP is bad by the way.
Ultimately and here it goes....... I can post independent testing up all day to show how well AMSOIL performs against the competition. I can show you all where others are failing including other popular brands on this board. However, my intent is to help you all make the best choices for your situation based on facts and not opinion; whether you are on a budget, racing, have a show car or picking out a product for your daily driver. So maybe you won't choose AMSOIL, but Freedom of Choice is a powerful right Americans have. I'm here to help you choose more wisely. ____________________________________________________ 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 QC SB 5.7L Hemi Express Limited Edition Performance Mods: RamHammer w/AMSOIL EAAU6080 Air Filter and Pre-Filter, 295/50 General Grabber UHP Tires, AMSOIL'd EVERYTHING!, Jet Stream, IAT mod, Superchip, FlowMaster SUV SI/SO, Thundervolt Full Length Wires, NGK Iridiums, AMSOIL By-Pass Kit, Power Slot Rotors w/EBC Green Pads, TCM wire pulled, Bilstein Shocks, APS Torque Converter 2500 Stall, Transgo Shift Kit, 190 T-Stat, Helwig Rear Anti Swaybar, Moe's Traction Bars w/Shims, Ground Force 2" Drop Shackles, 6.1 Cam w/Manley Springs, 6.1 Rods & Titanium Retainers, Viper Fan w/FK60 controller, Pacesetter Long Tubes & Y Pipe, Flowtech Exhaust Cutout, ATI 5% UD Harmonic Balancer, 4.10 Sierra Gears, M&H Slicks for the track on 17 alloys. Best 60ft 1.973 14.172@93.99MPH 345HP/346Torque Future Mods: Custom Grind Cam and Heads AMSOIL Dealer - www.PureSyn.net 877-778-7379, contact me for more info on wholesale or request a free catalog. Use Referral #470077 |
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