Okay guys and gals, am open to suggestions on headers for the Hemi. Has a FM on it (not sure what series...was on it when I bought it) and I'm not really wanting to do full exhaust right now (yes, I'm feeling LAZY). Ordered a set, and they'd be on back ordered and blah blah blah, told them to heck with it and will go a different route. Long tubes or shorties? (Yeah, I know long tubes are "better" in a lot of ways...but again I'm feeling lazy). Anyway, to make a long story short-I have a "helper" for the weekend and have decided its time to install the mods I have sitting here and a few others that I can to my shop by Saturday.

pacesetter and the y pipe.

I just recently got the pacsetter long tubes and I think they're Ok. I didn't really feel a difference. If you're feeling lazy I would not do long tubes. There is no point in Y piping a vehicle with headers, especially long tubes. That defeats the whole purpose of the HIGH FLOW, long tube headers. Shorties and a Y pipe would be better if you really are feeling lazy.

Just from personal expirence mind you...

Edelbrock TES Ceramic coated mid length headers
are pretty easy to install and you get some serious gains from them.

Getdanet dynoed his truck and got 30 hp and 28 lb ft torque. And the butt dyno says...

And they look cool, dont rust or discolor.

Welding is required.

The passenger side header is harder to get in than the drivers side. I didn't think the drivers side was going to fit because of the steering but it fit easily. Here is a pic of mine

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Spend the clams,and get the dynatech, bought mine on ebay from Henson Motorsports with ceramic coating for 1385 with free ship. took me 4-5 hours installing by myself, use a saw saw to remove the old system b/n the cats makes it easier. after it was done, pcm threw a p0430 code, put in (sparkplug) mech. sims and replaced front o2s with new sensors, no problems. above all the dyna system was very easy to install, torque of the header bolts was from a feel of the wrench, use locking bolts. Hope this helps.

Supermaxx from Dynatech for my money.

$1300 on headers is completely ridiculous to me. I spent less than that on my entire exhaust system. I doubt youll get any more hp out of those then you will with pace setters which are only about 300$ or $100-200 extra for the coated ones.

Just my 2 cents.

$1300 comes with high flow cats, and far better y-pipe. hard to compare headers only, to complete header systems.

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Edelbrock TES Ceramic coated mid length headers
are pretty easy to install and you get some serious gains from them.

05 Hemi mineral gray QC/SB Laramie/Edelbrock(T.E.S)mid-length headers with Stage 8 locking bolts and Mopar header gaskets/Mopar CAI/Superchips Flaspaq/Aeroturbine 3030 muffler and 3040 exhaust tip/limited slip anti-spin rear with 3.92s/20inch stock chrome clad rims and tires/Moes traction bars/Hellwig rear swaybar/SRT-10 A-pillar gauge pod/Hemi Sport body kit with bolt on hood scoop and Daytona dual exhaust sill cut out/Hemi bedliner and coming soon SRT-10 22's ,SRT-10 hood and carbon fiber taillights

is it too late to suggest hedman LTs, ive been a part of too many pace setters leaking and having very a crappy gasket surface and about a year down the road they just crap out, and i wouldnt use the gasket included with the pace setters. Definitely do Longtubes with a 3"Ory, it moves the power band right where it needs to be if you are looking for performance application. If you stick with the 2.5" reducer, it will keep all the gain on the low end, but the way i see it, when you are trying to get moving in a hurry, you are only on the low end for a split second and everything else is mid to upper rpm. The bigger the pipe after the collector the gain will be in more in the mid to upper RPM.

Everybody that I know thats running Pacesetters are going with the Mopar header gaskets and scrapping the crappy paper ones that come with the headers and with some Stage 8 locking bolts the Pacesetters are fine


05 Hemi mineral gray QC/SB Laramie/Edelbrock(T.E.S)mid-length headers with Stage 8 locking bolts and Mopar header gaskets/Mopar CAI/Superchips Flaspaq/Aeroturbine 3030 muffler and 3040 exhaust tip/limited slip anti-spin rear with 3.92s/20inch stock chrome clad rims and tires/Moes traction bars/Hellwig rear swaybar/SRT-10 A-pillar gauge pod/Hemi Sport body kit with bolt on hood scoop and Daytona dual exhaust sill cut out/Hemi bedliner and coming soon SRT-10 22's ,SRT-10 hood and carbon fiber taillights

Hi flow cats don't last very long and like I've said before a Y pipe with headers is pointless. So basically that extra stuff isn't gunn a help you.

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like I've said before a Y pipe with headers is pointless. So basically that extra stuff isn't gunn a help you.

Long tube headers, high flow cats, into a better engineered y-pipe is "pointless"

A full exhaust (long tubes, high flow cats, high flow y-pipe, 3" straight through muffler and piping has proven to produce 40hp & 50+lbs tq over a stock exhaust system. that's pretty good gain IMHO. And one of the BEST "bolt on" mods we have available to us

Think about it... Long tube headers into a single pipe = not as good flow as duals. That Y is going to kill your flow. The headers will help but I'd do duals after that. Why Y your exhuast? I'm still not understanding why so many people do this on our trucks. If you use the Y because it's easier and uses less room and less pipe then that's fine. But performance wise the duals are better. End of story