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I am running 9.5's (1/8 mile) with mods listed in my sig, so what will i run with a set of longtubes on the truck?
03' RCSB SLT HEMI. Mopar LSD w/3.92's, Moroso spiral flow muffler dumped, Flowtech Cutout, 20% tint, custom interior graphics, billet 3rd brake light/fuel door, kickass sound system, Helix Power Tower TBS, Drilled & Slotted performance rotors, Sylvania Silverstar Ultras, 2'' drop shackles w/ spring clamps, 10 minute TCM mod, Mopar/AEM knockoff CAI with K&N filter, MSD super conductors with NGK plugs, Black Magic Extreme 180 Electric fan, JET 180 thermostat, Superchips 3715 tuned, debagded (except for hemi), Jetstream scoop NEXT:Longtubes, 2/4 or 4/6 drop Best 1/8th mile to date: 9.284 HTC Titan Killer club     |
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I would guess maybe .3 seconds quicker.
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I know I lost some low-end torque when I added the long-tube headers. They definitely help your top end, but your 60ft time might suffer. Any thoughts from the gallery?
 Dave www.myspace.com/davidcombs67 2005 HEMI Ram 1500 QC 4x4 Laramie: Atlantic Blue on Silver Performance mods: Superchips Flashpaq; Dynatech Supermaxx Headers and high flow cats; Aeroturbine 3030 muffler; AEM Brute Force Cold Air Intake (with Huskynox's EGR baffle); Air Ram Jet Stream Intake; NKG 5306 spark plugs; Performance Distributors Livewires spark plug wires; Amsoil XL-5w20; Amsoil EaO-42 oil filter Other mods: Ground Force 2/4 drop kit with Nitro drop shocks; A.R.E. LSII tonneau with wing; Mopar ground effects; Rhino lining (color-matched); Altezza 3D taillights; Billet Creations "HEMI POWER" radiator channel cap, "HEMI" pedal set, and "HEMI" seat levers; billet radio knob, door lock pins, and head rest spacers; wheel well liners; Dodge stainless steel door sill guards; Overalls Customs Billet "HEMI" door sill plates; Overalls Customs Billet "HEMI" door inserts; Putco liquid billet door and tailgate handles; Powder-coated valve covers (sky blue sparkle); debadged; 20% tint, Tailgate Easylift, Fire & Ice LED light bar, 23x10 Boss 301 Chrome Wheels with Toyo Proxes ST 305/40/23; Billet and Acrylic hood strut covers, speaker rings, and "HEMI" door reflector cover        |
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Well hopefully in the 1/8 you're running wide open throttle. I would assume that the headers would help. If your 60 suffers your 1/8 will probably suffer also. At the track you don't really need "low end" torque. It's all high RPMs and wide open throttle.
1959 Buick Electra 4 Door Sedan 1959 Pontiac Star Chief 4 Door Hard Top 1962 Pontiac Catalina 2 Door HT 2007 Dodge Ram Single Cab Long Bed - almost no options except posi and HEMI! www.Pontiac-59.com |
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"Phil" |
us heavy QC (or any truck) guys should care as much or more about torque than we should about HP. Torque wins races, not HP. Yes our Hemi's like WOT at High RPM's, but if you can't get off the line, you've already lost. Just my opinion.  __________________________________ 06'-Ram-Hemi-Pearl Black-Magnaflow-AEM CAI-Diablo CMR Tuned By Mike W. @ tuningsuperstore.com 06'-Magnum R/T-Hemi-Pearl Black-Magnaflow-Diablo Tuned  ___________________________   |
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"Heath" VP Georgia Chapter  |
Just a point to ponder about lowend torque. If your worried about torque below 3000 rpms for racing, just go out in the street and watch your tach as you go WOT. your only below that rpm for just a split second, after that it's all about the power in the higher rpm's. At WOT, I'm never below 3000 rpm. The only time I'm under 4500 rpm is probaly less that one second in first gear. My shift recovery rpm is right at 4500 rpm. SO once I floor it the only rpm range I'm using is 4500-6300 rpm. I could have 100 more ft lbs of torque at 2000 rpm, but it would be of no benefit.
2004 rc/shtbed Hemi ram.. Modifiications... Mostly stockish..... Performance times: Naturally aspirated 1/8 mile. 8.20@82.38 1/4mile. 12.98@102.43  |
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President, Michigan Chapter Truck of the Month October 2008  |
x2 heres an older video of my truck. http://media.putfile.com/0-80-260 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iBtUPf8GKk ____________________________ SEMichigan Built 07 QCSB 4x4: truetrac, 4.56's & 04 RCSB 4x4: 4.56's, JM heads, APS TC, RAMHAMMER & 268 cam. 1/4 : 12.997 @ 104.93   |
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That was my point proud hemi!
As for torque winning races, why arent Diesels faster then? My friend has a lot of money into his 98 12 valve and he runs 18s. He built his truck for towing and has tons of torque but it's slower than my stock V6 2002 ram. And my dad's 06 cummins, With almost the same HP and twice the torque, why doesn't he stomp my hemi? It makes it's peak torque at 1600-1800 RPMs but it goes faster at 2800 RPMs where it's making more HP than torque. I can see the need for torque in towing or climbing hills, but WOT in a straight line you're gunna need that HP once that thing is already moving. 1959 Buick Electra 4 Door Sedan 1959 Pontiac Star Chief 4 Door Hard Top 1962 Pontiac Catalina 2 Door HT 2007 Dodge Ram Single Cab Long Bed - almost no options except posi and HEMI! www.Pontiac-59.com |
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President, Michigan Chapter Truck of the Month October 2008 |
no torque in my truck, thats what my 4.56 gears and torque converter are for.
____________________________ SEMichigan Built 07 QCSB 4x4: truetrac, 4.56's & 04 RCSB 4x4: 4.56's, JM heads, APS TC, RAMHAMMER & 268 cam. 1/4 : 12.997 @ 104.93 |
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"Jay" President, South Carolina Chapter HTC.com Engine Specialist  |
Yes, yes they are! 2003, Std. SWB, SLT, 20", 4:56 gear, AFE CAI, Superchip, 6.1 cam, 6.1 heads, Manley springs, retainers, pushrods, Edelbrock Hedders, 195 T-Stat, 8.2 Taylor, AEM, Power Wire, ARC-1,Amsoil Everything, and more. Veni Vidi Vici HTC.com Titan Killer Club         |
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"Pimp Daddy Dave" President NJ Chapter HTC.com Statistician Truck of the Month July 2008  |
Yep made an improvement on mine. (dynatech LT w/cats) also you can have electric cutouts put on and will have a big improvement at the track. Noisy as hell but who cares..LOL
Drive it like you stole it   Visit my web page http://www.angelfire.com/planet/hemidavek/index.html Stock: 350HP @ flywheel 245RWHP MODS:400HP @ flywheel /315RWHP Mods to date: Performance Stuff to make it go fast. Audio/Video Stuff to make it sound better Appearance Stuff to make it look better best mod of all, my fiance' Susan :-)         |
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"Jay" President, South Carolina Chapter HTC.com Engine Specialist |
Glad YOU said that. That's a bag of worms I didn't want to open! 2003, Std. SWB, SLT, 20", 4:56 gear, AFE CAI, Superchip, 6.1 cam, 6.1 heads, Manley springs, retainers, pushrods, Edelbrock Hedders, 195 T-Stat, 8.2 Taylor, AEM, Power Wire, ARC-1,Amsoil Everything, and more. Veni Vidi Vici HTC.com Titan Killer Club |
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"Heath" VP Georgia Chapter |
 2004 rc/shtbed Hemi ram.. Modifiications... Mostly stockish..... Performance times: Naturally aspirated 1/8 mile. 8.20@82.38 1/4mile. 12.98@102.43 |
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President Kansas Chapter  |
I'm a torque kinda guy myself, that's why I'm going to start off with the 260 cam to compensate the LT's I have now. But frankly, the 2 days of experience I have with my LT's, I'm not noticing any loss below 3500, it's pretty much the same. Above 3500, that's a different story. Nothing but gains.
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I have shorty headers on my truck i am getting some obx long tubes I am running 9.15 to 75mph with the long tubes will that hurt my time or help my truck is 03 sbrc with the hemi
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