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All I have to say is WHAT THE F!!!!
Dynoed today and I LOST 1HP and 3TQ over Hypertech??????????????????? I am so pissed!!!!!! What I don't get is that she feels soooo much faster and so why the bad #s???? I did talk to Shawn Ellis who is a authorized Diablo tuner and he said that I need a custom tune, yha think??? But the canned tunes are supposed to give 20/20 and I lost??????? Pics and graph to come. FlowMaster 40 w/res removed, 440 Six-Pack hood, Custom grille, Custom Intake, QTP electric cut out, CST leather seats, back window black limo tint, GT spoiler lid w/electric locks, stripes continued on lid w/Bee logo and ground effects, GF lowering schackles, leaf spring clamps, PowerSlots and Hawk pads, debadged, MRK jewelry, Crystal Eyes black head lights W/Silverstar bulbs, Black euro tail lights, yellow top Optima battery, 6.1 cam, Compcam springs, Manley pushrods and titianium retainers, yellow powder coated valve covers, Mr Gasket 180 thermostat, FlexaLite 180 Black Magic E fan, Taylor ThunderVolt 8.2mm plug wires, black suede headliner/pillars, sunroof, Dodge bed rug, Black Demoda wheels, Nitto 420s tires, yellow painted calipers, Moe's traction bars. DSP. |
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"Danny"  |
  2006 2WD QC SPORT. ENJOYED DAILY!!!! HTC.com Titan Killer Club        |
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"Jason" |
Compare it on the track, not a dyno. Cant win races on a dyno.
2007 QC 1500 Lonestar Bright White Debadged except hemi & dodge badges Motive 4.56 Gears/ Jet Stream Air Scoop/ 3rd Strike Intake polished aluminium with amsoil filter and pre filter/ Hedman Headers/ Magnaflow x-pipe/ Two Aero Turbine AT2525s dumped under bed |
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"Jason" Truck of the Month May 2008  |
Were all the conditions the same as your last runs? Overall 1hp, isnt too bad of a loss at all.
Current mods: Exterior: 2003 RC short bed Ram. Chrome 20" Motto wheels, 275/55/20 Bridgestone Duelers, tint, functional SRT-10 Hood, Street Scene bumper cover, de-chromed and painted rear bumper, body matched grill shell, mirrors, door handles, tailgate handle and antenna mount, billet grill and bumper inserts, Bushwhacker street fender flares, polished "Ram" 3rd brake light cover. Snuglid tonneu cover with a bedrug. Engine: Flowmaster 40 series dual exhaust, 3rd Strike dual filter with throttle body spacer. Audio: Alpine 9885 with IPod, Infiniti Reference 3.5", 5.25" and 6x9's, two Kenwood DVC 12" subs with three Kenwood amps running it all through Monster Cable wiring. Optima red-top. Interior: Suede headliner, color matched A&B pillars, overhead console, and rear light surround. Proudly serving our country with the Marine Corps for over 12 years. "The secrecy of my job prevents me from knowing what I do"     |
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too bad at all?? that is compared to a crappy hypertech. There is a guy on Dodgetalk that did a couple of track runs with DSP and Superchips. The diablo ran a 9.2x and the superchips ran an 8.7x????? Whats going on diablo. Ill take SC or SCT any day.
 My cammed hemi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw1lDSLSKgc JOHNNYHEMI Stu cam 218/218 112LSA spartan max, 6.1 rods, 6.1 springs,Tuned, Hedman Longtubes, Dual 3" dynomax bullets, NO cats, SRT-10 rear axel swap D-60 LSD,4.10 gears srt-10 dual piston vented rear brakes SHARADON STAGE III VALVEBODY, Lincoln 18" E-Fan,TransgoHDReprogram SHift Kit with resistor, Taylor Shorties,mcgaughys 2/4 drop, Custom painted bumpers, shaved and painted grille shell, rumble bee grille inserts, Debadged, |
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"Rob" VP Alaska Chapter  |
  2008 Dodge Durango 4x4 SLT HEMI and 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 SLT Quad Cab HEMI www.lubedealer.com/99705/           April 25, 2007!! |
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"Jeff" |
2007 4X4 QC SB SLT BIG HORN SILVER AND 20' WHEEL'S,TOWING PACKAGE AND IT'S GOT A HEMI. 2" DAY STAR LEVELING KIT, DUEL EXHAUST WITH FLOWMASTER SUPER 44, MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST TIPS, OVAL STEP BAR'S, LINE-X SPRAY IN BED LINER, CHROME BUG SHEILD, RAIN VENT'S AND DIAMOND PLATE RAM HEAD ON BACK GLASS. AND MORE GOODIES TO COME.    |
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find a dyno and play w/ the fuel/spark.
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"Roger"  |
 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 Thunder Road SLT 4x4 Quad Cab Hemi. Line X Spray in bed liner. Patriot Blue.      |
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Can you post the before and after dyno sheet?
Doug Lynch Black 2004 Dodge RAM 1500. 20'' wheels.\Transgo shift kit\3.92 gears\Aero-Turbine 3030\Superchip 3815\ Taylor Shortys\Ramhammer CAI\277RWHP\330 RWTQ\CRL Power Slider Rear Window\Chrome Upper Bumper\Dash Kit\Falken Tires\130,000+ miles   |
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President Kansas Chapter  |
THIS is the difference between driveability, and peak power numbers. Just because you tune an engine doesn't mean you will GAIN power, but if there is room for improvement, it DOES mean there will be a gain in driveability, and that is what you are experiencing. Not to say that a custom tune to YOUR truck won't increase peak power as well. And if you didn't run them back to back, there's plenty of other factors such as conditions. But even if you did run back to back, there's the idea that the ECM has to run that tune a bit to learn and adapt. Go back and compare the graphs side by side, and look at the power curves, and how they compare at different RPM intervals.  "Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it." - Lou Holtz   |
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President Kansas Chapter |
BTW, reminds me of a story of a guys bike we tuned at a bike shop. Costs about $200 for a full tune on the bike, and he was pissed off when he saw that he had lost 1 hp AFTER the tune. Tried explaining "driveability" to him, and he apparently was just to upset to want to understand, so we told him to just go ride it, and if he wasn't satisfied, we'd give him his money back.
Called us minutes later, before he even got home to thank us for the "new motor" we put in his bike, it felt that much different/better. "Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it." - Lou Holtz |
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She does feel way faster, butt dyno loves Diablo!!!
Blue is w/hypertech Red is w/Diablo. FlowMaster 40 w/res removed, 440 Six-Pack hood, Custom grille, Custom Intake, QTP electric cut out, CST leather seats, back window black limo tint, GT spoiler lid w/electric locks, stripes continued on lid w/Bee logo and ground effects, GF lowering schackles, leaf spring clamps, PowerSlots and Hawk pads, debadged, MRK jewelry, Crystal Eyes black head lights W/Silverstar bulbs, Black euro tail lights, yellow top Optima battery, 6.1 cam, Compcam springs, Manley pushrods and titianium retainers, yellow powder coated valve covers, Mr Gasket 180 thermostat, FlexaLite 180 Black Magic E fan, Taylor ThunderVolt 8.2mm plug wires, black suede headliner/pillars, sunroof, Dodge bed rug, Black Demoda wheels, Nitto 420s tires, yellow painted calipers, Moe's traction bars. DSP.  |
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"Phil" Treasurer Texas Chapter  |
would like to see the A/F ratios on both runs as well... i bet the diablo tune is a bit more "safe" than a "maxed out" hypertech tune. hypertech and superchips dump crazy amounts of timing into these tunes, to squeeze out every last hp... this does two things.. actually three... 1) raises your EGT's (not good), 2) increases your KR (not good either), 3) gives you a couple or three extra ponies (good for the guy that only wants the "numbers" on a sheet). If you are wanting LONG TERM SAFE TUNING, you absolutely need to get a custom tune... WE (even I) are accustom to superchips/hypertech tuning methods, and how they "feel"... WE (even I) are creatures of habit... that said, ANYTHING that does not feel or "dyno" BETTER than superchips/hypertech will instantly be disappointed... WE (even I) are JUST starting to realize the benefits of Diablo, and the ability to safely TUNE our engines... we have always just believed that the numbers that we have seen with superchips/hypertech was the "best" form of hp gains, and had no other tool to compare it too.... take some time, do some data logging... see what your KR is with Diablo, see what your EGTs are with diablo... then do the same thing with hypertech or superchips... if you have an A/F guage, monitor that as well.. .you may be surprised what you find..
____________________________________________________________________________ 06'-Ram-Hemi-Pearl Black-Magnaflow-AEM CAI-Diablo CMR Tuned By Mike W. @ tuningsuperstore.com 06'-Magnum R/T-Hemi-Pearl Black-Magnaflow-Diablo Tuned Ram in Action       Only 2 defining forces have ever offered to die for you.... Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom. |
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Fine print on the 2 runs, 10 degrees difference in air temp, and the humidity is 16% in one and 61% in the other?
Theres the loss right there! Cool dense air makes horsepower!  2009 QC 1500, HEMI, 390 HORSEPOWER, 407 FT LBS, SLT, DEEPWATER BLUE, 20" MB GUNNER 5 CHROME WHEELS. WRAPPED WITH YOKOHAMA RUBBERS. MAGNAFLOW 3"/3" MUFFLER, SINGLE STRAIGHT OUT EXIT WITH SS TIP. "HEMI-anything else would be uncivilized"   |
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